College Football 2008

 

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Week 10

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Jon WilnerPOLLSPEAK'S PICK: Bad Voter of Week 10 -- Jon Wilner   (posted 10/29/08)

Last week Pollspeak sided with the voters and resisted a strong urge to vote Jon Wilner Bad Voter of Week 9.  It was just too hard to resist two weeks in a row.  This is his first time Pollspeak has picked Wilner this season, although he was a regular contributor last season and our inaugural Worst Voter of the Year for 2007.  In 2008, Wilner's week 10 ballot has several issues that bear discussion:

Wilner was an obvious candidate since Pollstalker even singled him out as the week's most extreme voter with eight extreme votes and four near-extremes.  However, extreme doesn't have to mean bad.

On the other hand, he is one of two people who voted USC over Penn State (Kevin Pearson is the other).  This is really hard to justify, but he tries.  In his blog, Wilner points to USC's strength of schedule, which is much stronger according to Sagarin's ratings.  However, he fails to mention that even Sagarin ranks Penn State over USC.  Penn State is ranked higher in both the standard ratings (#2 vs. #3) and ELO_CHESS (#3 vs. #9), which is what the BCS uses.  The reason Sagarin ranks Penn State higher is because it also takes into account number of losses and to whom a team loses.  Unfortunately, Wilner has his own formula, which is likely less scientific and less proven.

Wilner also mentions USC and Penn State's common opponents:  Ohio State and Oregon State.  For some reason he points out that USC beat the Buckeyes more convincingly, but he completely neglects the value of USC's loss to Oregon State.  What is so frustrating about reading Wilner's blog (much like his ballot) is that he seems to spend a lot of time thinking about his rankings only to come up with contradictory results while leaving out important facts.

The next issue with Wilner's ballot is ranking Texas Tech lowest in the country at #12.  This is an improvement over last week's lowest ranking of #16.  You would think after beating Kansas, a team he ranked #21 last week, the undefeated Red Raiders may have at least earned enough respect to jump teams like Boise State (who has a lower strength of schedule) or two-loss Ohio State, which he currently ranks highest at #9.  Texas Tech might deserve to drop out of the top 10, if they lose this week to Texas.  However, he could wait to see if it happens first.  Even if Texas Tech does lose, some voters may still rank them higher than 12.  In fact, if Texas Tech loses, we think there is a chance Wilner will actually rank them higher next week since their strength of schedule will improve.

As we mentioned in our SI.com Blog, Wilner was the only voter to rank Navy (5-3) this week. Interestingly, he left Duke and Pittsburgh unranked. No shock over Duke … nobody ranked the Blue Devils. But the Panthers (5-2) have a better record than the Midshipmen and trounced them in Annapolis. However, if you're going to rank Navy, you might as well rank Duke, too. The Blue Devils have the same number of losses (3) and also beat Navy. Duke would surely love some publicity after last week's victory over one-time SEC Cinderella, Vanderbilt. In fact, that win certainly contributed to both Sagarin and Anderson/Hester ranking the SEC the fourth strongest conference this week.  (Note:  Wilner ranked Vanderbilt over Texas Tech last week as well.)

Jon Wilner was also the only person this week not to rank BYU and one of two voters not to rank Minnesota.  However, on the positive side, he is one of the few voters to actually rank Maryland over California AND California over Michigan State, which is how those head-to-head matchups played out.  Most voters don't have Cal on the radar yet because they've played fewer games and only have five wins, but that should change if the Golden Bears keep winning.

Craig JamesPEOPLE'S PICK: Bad Voter of Week 10 -- Craig James (posted 10/29/08)

Name Good Votes Bad Votes Net Bad Votes
Craig James  209  416  207 

Craig James received the most Bad votes and net Bad votes (which hasn't happened in a while).  While he received a lot of Good votes, it seems Boise State fans ruled Pollstalker this week.  James voted the Broncos lowest at #15.  Even happy Virginia (#20) and Georgia Tech (#22) fans couldn't make up the difference.

Ferd LewisGood Voter of Week 10 -- Ferd Lewis   (posted 10/29/08)

Name Good Votes Bad Votes Net Good Votes
Ferd Lewis  110  55  55 

A mere 55 net Good votes was enough for Ferd Lewis to be the people's choice this week.  (Jon Wilner received the most Good votes, 345, likely from USC, Ohio State and Navy fans, but received nearly as many bad votes.)  Pollspeak has no major issues with Lewis' week 10 ballot so we'll make it unanimous.

Lewis' ballot is a good choice because it is opposite Wilner's in several ways:

- Penn State over USC

- Texas Tech in a reasonable spot (#6)

- Doesn't have Navy in place of BYU or Minnesota

Yet, he still has Maryland, Cal and Michigan State in the order of head-to-head matchups, and as a bonus also ranks Pittsburgh (winner of the Pitt, USF, Kansas head-to-heads).

He does have Oklahoma State lowest (#11), but not enough Cowboy fans disagreed with his choice to matter.  Boise State likely gave him his Good votes since he was one of two people to rank them highest at #9.  Luckily for Lewis, Utah fans already made their point last week.

SI.com LogoPollspeak's Blog on SI.com  (posted 10/27/08)

Is there still consensus?  Is the BCS watered down? Are people watching the games?  What does Barbara Billingsley have to do with football?  Those questions answered and more in this week's blog on SI.com.

AP LogoWeek 10 AP ballots released WITH MAJOR ERRORS  (posted 10/26/08)

It looks like many of the ballots are actually pre-season ballots and not week 10 ballots.  Until the AP corrects the ballots, Pollstalker voting will be postponed. Hopefully it will be corrected soon, and we will keep you posted. 

UPDATE 3:30pm EST: 10/26/08 -- It turns out that the AP site erroneously lists every week's ballot as week 10.  This is a technical glitch on the AP site, but you can see the actual 'Week 10' ballots at the bottom of each voter's page.  Pollstalker now contains the proper ballots and voting is open.  We ask AP voters to please check their ballots and let us know if you find any issues.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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