Week 12
Week 12
WORST Voter -- Scott Wolf (Again), Los Angeles Daily News
(posted 11/14/07)
Scott Wolf has repeated as
Worst Voter of the Week. He joins
Craig James as the only other
voter to be named twice. James has since cleaned up his act, but Wolf
seems to have no desire to follow suit and may go for a hat trick. As we
enter the final weeks of college football, it seems our group of most-extreme
voters is staying consistent. What put Wolf at the top this week was the
number of red flags where he was the only voter. He also won the
un-popular vote yet again. Here are the highlights from his
week 12 ballot:
1) For the second week running, Wolf alone gives Texas their highest ranking
at #6 and Kansas its lowest at #8. Wolf is not only the lone extreme in
both cases, but his ordering of these two teams is odd. Texas still has
two losses and Kansas still has zero, and they now have four common opponents:
Oklahoma State, Baylor, Nebraska and Kansas State.
- Texas lost to Kansas State. Kansas beat them.
- Texas beat Baylor 31 - 10. Kansas beat them 58 - 10.
- Texas beat Nebraska 28 - 25. Kansas beat them 76 - 39.
- Texas beat Oklahoma State 38 - 35. Kansas beat the Cowboys 43-28.
The case for Kansas being ranked over Texas has gotten stronger each week;
however, that hasn't fazed Wolf. Maybe he is expecting Kansas to lose its
last two games, and instead of waiting for it to happen, he is showing his
prophetic skills by voting that way now.
2) Oklahoma can thank Mr. Wolf for its lone #1 vote in the AP Poll.
3) Wolf also gives Kentucky its highest ranking at #13, Florida its highest
ranking at #9, and West Virginia its second highest ranking at #3. Pollspeak
is not saying that these teams are unworthy of the rankings; however, it isn't a
good sign when your champion has a pattern of multiple extreme picks.
4) In addition to down-grading Kansas, he also gives Oregon its lowest
ranking at #4, Arizona State its second lowest at #12, and Ohio State it's
lowest at #11.
There are other items that could be pointed out, but these are the
highlights. We'll let you discuss the rest on our
FORUMS.
Week 12
DIS-honorable Mention -- Jon Wilner, San Jose Mercury News (posted
11/14/07)
Another usual suspect is this week's DIS-honorable Mention. Jon Wilner is no
stranger to Pollspeak. He was
Week 10's Worst Voter and has made a few negative cameos in the Quick Hits
section. His
week 12 ballot earned him runner-up this week. The reason he didn't take
top honors is due to quality vs. quantity. Wilner has many votes on the
edge...not the most extreme, but really close. In fact, there are too many
occurrences to place him in the Quick Hits section...or it would no longer be
quick.
1) Wilner continues to show an SEC bias. He is in the top 10% for
all ranked SEC teams: LSU, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky and
Auburn.
2) The list could get pretty long, so we will just throw everything else
into #2. Here is a list of every team where Wilner is either the extreme
or within 10% of the extreme. Keep in mind, this list constitutes more
than half of his entire ballot...that is hard to do without trying:
- Missouri -- highest #3 (1 agree)
- Georgia -- highest #5 (alone)
- Kansas -- #6 (2 agree, 1 lower...Scott Wolf)
- Florida -- highest #9 (1 agree...Scott Wolf)
- Ohio State -- lowest #11 (3 agree)
- Cincinnati -- highest #15 (alone)
- Auburn -- #20 (3 agree, 1 higher)
- Arizona State -- #12 (4 agree, 1 lower)
- Tennessee -- #13 (1 agree, 1 higher)
- Texas -- #17 (1 agree, 1 lower)
- Kentucky -- #18 (1 agree, 6 higher)
- Virginia -- #23 (1 agree, 3 lower)
- Hawaii -- #24 (2 lower)
Once again, there is nothing wrong with many of these picks individually.
It is just when you take the sheer number of extreme picks into account that a
concern is raised. You can see Wilner's reasoning in his own words here:
My AP Poll.
There are other items that could be pointed out, but these are the
highlights. We'll let you discuss the rest on our
FORUMS.
Computer
Round-Up (posted 11/14/07)
Computer Round-Up is a quick look at the computer polls; particularly where
they disagree with the human polls or with each other.
1) This week's example of how a late loss can cost you an extra spot or
two in the human polls is Ohio State. Ohio State dropped to #7 in all
three human polls this week after their loss to Illinois. However, the
computer polls don't care as much when a loss occurs; the Buckeyes dropped to #5
or #6 in most polls, and only dropped to #2 in Billingsley.
2) There is some positive movement in this week's Hawaii watch.
Hawaii has finally broken the top 25 in a second computer poll.
Billingsley now ranks them #25. Wolfe is still highest, now at #12.
Massey is still worst at #36, but this is a significant jump from last week’s
#54. The human polls all rank the Warriors significantly higher than all
but Wolfe.
3) Wolfe and Sagarin both have Kansas as the #1 team in the nation.
The rest agree with the pollsters and rank LSU #1.
4) We hate to kick a program while its down, but since Notre Dame
hasn't been in the polls lately, Pollspeak hasn’t had the opportunity to report
on them. So for the only mention of the Irish this year, here are their
computer rankings:
- Billingsley: #69 – just below Fresno State
- Anderson Hester: #96 – below LA Monroe and Arkansas State
- Sagarin: #103 – below Yale, Villanova and Southern Miss
- Colley: #106 – just below Temple and Duke
- Massey: #107 – just below Georgia Southern
- Wolfe: #117 – just below Grambling State
5) South Florida is generally liked by the computers. They are
unranked in all three human polls...not even getting a single vote in the
Coaches’ Poll. However, four of the six computers rank them in the top 25.
Sagarin is the highest at #15 and Billingsley the lowest at #33.
6) The computers generally don't like Boise State as much as the voters.
The Broncos are ranked #17 in the AP Poll and #15 in the Coaches' and Harris
Interactive polls. Billingsley tops them all at #12, but the others range
from #24 (Colley & Wolfe), #28 (Sagarin and Anderson Hester), to #39 (Massey).
The showdown on 11/23 with Hawaii should help the winner...and may even help the
loser in the computers.
7) The computers don’t like Texas and Oklahoma as much as the voters.
They are the only top 25 teams where not a single computer ranked them the same
or better than any of the three human polls.
| Poll Name |
Texas |
Oklahoma |
| Colley |
15 |
9 |
| Sagarin |
16 |
4 |
| Wolfe |
21 |
7 |
| Massey |
23 |
8 |
| Anderson Hester |
13 |
7 |
| Billingsley |
21 |
9 |
| Humans |
12 / 11 (coaches) |
3 |
There are other items that could be pointed out, but these are the
highlights. We'll let you discuss the rest on our
FORUMS.
Quick
Hits From Around the Country (posted 11/15/07)
Adam Van Brimmer, Savannah Morning News -- once again came dangerously close
to returning to the top of the page. He has the highest ranks for Hawaii
#5, Boise State #11, BYU #14, and Air Force #25, and the lowest ranks for West
Virginia #8, Missouri #9, Boston College (unranked) and some other close
calls. While waiting for his return, you can re-visit his Worst Voter of the
Week ballot in week 9.
Rich Kaipust, Omaha World-Herald -- also just snuck under the radar this
week. By casting the only #1 vote for West Virginia, he definitely drew some
attention...but mostly from happy Mountaineer fans. Kentucky fans were not
as happy since he was one of only five to leave the Wildcats off his ballot.
He also ranks Boston College highest at #12 and Georgia lowest at #11.
Neal McCready, Mobile Press-Register -- has USC (#16) and Virginia Tech
(#17) lowest, Mississippi State (#23) highest (1 of 3 to rank them) and Air
Force (#25) highest along with Brimmer.
Eric Hansen, South Bend Tribune and
Herb Gould, Chicago Sun-Times -- are the only two voters to leave Boise
State off their ballots.
Dave Morrison, Register-Herald -- is the only voter to rank Alabama (#25)
and has Tennessee highest at #11.
Doug Lesmerises, Plain Dealer -- gave Kansas its only #1 vote.
Kevin Pearson, Riverside Press-Enterprise -- is the only voter to leave
Tennessee unranked.
Craig James, ABC -- is the only voter to leave Hawaii unranked.
Scott Rabalais, Advocate -- is the only voter to leave Clemson unranked.
He also ranks Michigan (#15) and USC (#8) highest.
Chris Fowler, ESPN -- has Penn State highest at #18, but isn’t showing Big
10 bias since he is only one of seven to leave Illinois off of his ballot.
GOOD Voter
of Week 12 -- Joe Giglio, The News & Observer (North Carolina) (posted
11/15/07)
Joe Giglio's
week 12 ballot is relatively clean according to Pollstalker. There are
a few votes near the edge (i.e. Florida, Kentucky and Hawaii), but zero official
red flags. Again, Pollspeak doesn't demand perfection. We look for
objective voting and a reasonable attention to detail. You can read about
Giglio's poll in his own words here:
AP Blog.
1) Giglio is almost computer-like in some of his thinking (See Computer
Round-Up above). He dropped Ohio State to only #6, which is just within
the range of the computers. He also is one of the few who think USF (#24)
deserves a ranking...again in line with most of the computers. At #25, he
actually ranks Hawaii one spot better than their computer average of #26
(rounded). And finally he ranks Kansas #3, which is coincidentally the
average ranking (rounded) of the Jayhawks in the six computer polls.
2) He also seems to pay close attention to what happened on the field
when teams have a similar ranking and have played a head-to-head match up:
- Oklahoma #4 over Missouri #5
- Florida #10 over Kentucky #16 and Tennessee #17
- Virginia #15 over Connecticut #23
- Michigan #20 over Illinois #21
- Illinois #21 over Wisconsin and Penn State (unranked)
- Cincinnati #22 over Connecticut #23
An exception is ranking Virginia Tech #12 over Boston College #14.
However, this was a conscious decision, which he explains in his
AP Blog.
You can continue to make cases for Good Voters of the Week on our
FORUMS.
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